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Reyth

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Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #600 on: September 25, 2017, 09:19:25 PM »
Have you tried testing multiple selections simultaneously?  Like all 3 Dozens at once?  I think we shall notice a difference in one of them in every trial...
 

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« Reply #601 on: September 26, 2017, 08:33:57 AM »

I have made so many Excel programs to analyse the different table chances.

Here an example of the occurrence of the DSs. The interest in my research is not very popular.

Roulette is a very simple game. The problem is to beat the advantage of the roulette. This is only possible with simple systems and strategies. A large number of small profits makes a fortune.
 
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« Reply #602 on: September 26, 2017, 11:22:05 AM »


Roulette is indeed a simple game Dobbelsteen. To most the problem is that they cannot read the variance curve of their bet selections versus the number generation of the wheel.

Here is a simple platform I developed some time ago for those in my team that likes betting on double streets. The platform tracks the spun numbers and offers bet on two bets performing double streets in any given spin. That means 12 numbers and of course way better than the ordinary dozen play the casino offers with its three dozen marked on the table.

The platform displays three variance curves, each one showing the variance of the best performing Double streets including the double streets combinations it is bound to as to cover the entire table (the other two windows)



The best going in this example from a session against an online Casino live dealer roulette (Casino International), is the top curve in the first window. It shows DS 1-6 and DS 19-24 has so far made a 49% hit-rate, compared to the blind bet probability of 32.4% for any given 12 number selection.

The platform found this Chart (7) very early in the game, and also in the midst of a previously winning chart, but this chart with a way better variance curve. Once the break out, as seen in the image below,  was a fact, I started betting on the variance curve as it started ascending into positive green territory, scoring 6 clean wins out of 7, making a nice +22 units on that break out which with an earlier chart that also offered me an opportunity earn a nice profit on a positive variance ride made this session ending in a total profit of 46 units before I stopped the game having reach a nice day target.



So, yes, I agree with your assessment that roulette is a simple game and being able to read a variance curve of your bet-selection against its infinite generation of numbers is not so hard once you learn said language like any other language in order to be able to understand what is said.
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Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #603 on: September 26, 2017, 01:14:50 PM »
Dobble, I don't think there enough spins to really see a pattern yet.  What we see is the wild fluctuations of an early game where many DS change positions.  Can you do 500 spins?

Awesome thoughts Thomas!
 

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« Reply #604 on: September 26, 2017, 03:08:38 PM »

Thomas
How many  spins do you track to obtain your " advantage " ?
I assume these are Live spins ?
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« Reply #605 on: September 26, 2017, 03:36:12 PM »
There are two tracking settings on the platform (bottom right corner).

0 - Locked mode - which means the Platform locks the the chart of your choice and displays only the two double streets u follow and want to play on a specific term of spins ahead. In the background you will be informed if better charts shows up with higher hitrated street combinations during the game. If so u just input the chart number and you are in the next chart of your choice.

1 - AutoSelect on -  The Platform scans all combinations of streets from the first spin to the last one of your casino session and picks out the best one for you as the game progresses.

The user starts reading and betting the Omicron (Omicron being a greek letter O) curve after minimum 20 spins, but a minimum of 25 spins is recommended so the Omicron Curve can mature and be viable for chart analysis. As you see I started earlier here, but the curves were so good I just started the game a bit earlier.

Yes these spins was from a  game at Casino International (Unibet proxy feed) three days ago.
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« Reply #606 on: September 26, 2017, 04:54:35 PM »
Thomas, could you please explain how to lock the chart? Or post some link to where such thing is explained.  Very interesting! !!!
 

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« Reply #607 on: September 26, 2017, 05:49:59 PM »

It is simple. The platform is designed for instantenous switches between different modes of chart projection and analysis, considering the bet-window in most online Casinos I use are between 30 seconds - 1 minute.

In the first image you see the charting part of the platform in AutoSelect On mode. It scans all doublestreet combinations and presents in the image the currently best performing according to certain criteria.

Chart 7 is chosen here and you see three Omicron Curves plotting the variance curve and hit rate of the bet selections to the right of the chart. Even an edge is displayed below the colored sidebars telling the user if the Cano has the edge (red) or the player (green).

The chart themselves (green red) go up and down, with green, or red color dominating, depending how high or low the Curves go.



In the next image you see the platform now locked on Chart 1 (green button on upper right), I choose to type in that chart number manually and thus lock the chart there by typing 0 on the bottom right corner which returns "Manual Select On".

The Platform is now locked on chart 1 for as long as I leave the Chart choosing mode on 0 on the bottom right, or type in another chart number on the upper right green button.



If you notice here the chart 1 is the default dozens 1-12  13 -24  25-36 made by the double streets. As you also may notice, the hit rate of this chart is way lower than the best Chart 7 in the first image and hence not an option in this game.

I hope this answers your question.
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« Reply #608 on: September 26, 2017, 08:24:36 PM »
So not suitable for a B&M casino ?
 

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Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #609 on: September 26, 2017, 08:37:27 PM »
The Omicron Protocol is perfect for Landbased Casinos. In a far simpler version of course, but still very effective. So far tests performed by my team has shown a yield of around +10 to +20 units per 60 spins. Not much, but if you implement high value chips the ROI on an equal sized Bankroll is fully acceptable.

Personally I prefer playing online against the wheel with a very advanced version that scans best wheel partitions during a set of evolving variance curves from a specific spectrum of bet selections. The return is usually somewhere between +150 to +300 units per session of 60-100 spins.
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« Reply #610 on: September 26, 2017, 09:06:33 PM »
Inside Bets / Outside Bets ?
Bankroll size ?
Flat Bets  / Progressions ?
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« Reply #611 on: September 26, 2017, 09:16:47 PM »
Implementing the Landbased Omicron Protocol means that you have to keep things simple and specific in order to be able to divide your time between spins (bet window) efficiently. 

The steps are three:  Notation - OP analysis - Bet selection.

Bankroll is usually 10-20 units which corresponds to expected return on investment (ROI). The difference in BR size depends on your ability to read the OP and of course experience of playing in a Landbased Casino enviroment.

All bet selections are inside bets, never outside. All bets are flat bets.

We tested for a while various POSITIVE progressions but decided to keep the bet size simple as the return was dominantly positive from all recorded sessions.
 

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Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #612 on: September 27, 2017, 07:26:45 AM »
Sounds good  .
!0 / 20 unit bank .
 Betting 2 DS ?
Liked the graph but not the idea. Not enough info .
Still, each to his own .

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« Reply #613 on: September 27, 2017, 01:08:11 PM »
Thomas I know a lot about random rows. Your approach is new for me. I am a newbie. For a newbie, your pictures need more explanation. I have no idea how to use the charts.
When I go to my B&M casino, what tools do I bring with me.
 Pen and paper, a preprinted note sheet, a computer and what else?
How many,  where and when I must place my bets?

 
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« Reply #614 on: September 27, 2017, 01:20:54 PM »
Here two rows of 6 reds. The first one R_R_R_R_R_R and the second one R_R_R_R_R_R. At first sight they are the same. In the next reply I will explain the significant differs. The one is more special than the other one.
 
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